[AISWorld] A small revolution in the IS field

MurphJen at aol.com MurphJen at aol.com
Thu Jan 3 23:34:42 EST 2013

an interesting point about the knowledge pyramid and needing to do research 
 into wisdom.  This last summer I posted a question on AISWorld  asking how 
this relates to IS as I had received a series of comments on  knowledge 
management and on a knowledge pyramid paper I had submitted that  basically 
wondered how these topics related to IS.  Perhaps this is part of  the 
revolution, changing the IS field to the Knowledge Systems or Wisdom Systems  field. 
 Not trying to stir the pot but it does seem like there definitely  is a 
small revolution brewing....murray jennex
In a message dated 1/3/2013 7:28:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
nik at okstate.edu writes:

"I've  spent two decades arguing that the presumption that data,
information,  knowledge and wisdom can be mapped onto a single
dimension is dangerously  wrong."

Good point Š which is also made in our paper. But one needs  to start
someplace. And the knowledge pyramid is as good as any starting  point
because everyone in IS is familiar with  it.



On 1/3/13 9:16 PM, "Roger Clarke"  <Roger.Clarke at xamax.com.au> wrote:

>At 2:38 +0000 4/1/13,  Dalal, Nik wrote:
>>"Wisdom sits atop the knowledge pyramid  ..."
>I've spent two decades arguing that the presumption that  data,
>information, knowledge and wisdom can be mapped onto a  single
>dimension is dangerously wrong.
>Details  here:
>Summary  of useful working defintions:
>'Data' is any symbol, sign or  measure which is in a form which can be
>directly captured by a person  or a machine.
>'Real-world data' is data which represents or  purports to represent a
>fact in the real world; whereas 'synthetic  data' is data which does
>'Information' is data that  has value. Informational value depends
>upon context. Until it is placed  in an appropriate context, data is
>not information, and once it ceases  to be in that context it ceases
>to be  information.
>'Knowledge' is the matrix of impressions within  which an individual
>situates newly acquired  information.
>'Wisdom' is on an entirely different plane from  data, from
>information and from knowledge, because it has to do with  judgement
>exercised by applying decision criteria to knowledge combined  with
>new  information.
>At  2:38 +0000 4/1/13, Dalal, Nik wrote:
>>Thanks Nik H. for the wisdom  in your posting and to all others for
>>raising key questions and  issues relating to the broader and deeper
>>impact of IS research. In  terms of foci of IS research that can have
>>a significant impact in  the world,  can we look at "wisdom", which
>>is emerging as an  academic area of research? For the next AMCIS, Jan
>>Kroeze and I  have a mini track on transdisciplinary wisdom for which
>>we invite  your contributions. As I state in the abstract of a paper
>>on this  topic,  "Wisdom sits atop the knowledge pyramid in  the
>>Information Systems (IS) literature. Yet there has been  little
>>research on wisdom in the IS field despite the need to  transform
>>knowledge to wisdom. Perhaps there is no other subject  central to
>>human existence whose exploration holds so much promise  as wisdom to
>>help address myriad crises affecting the worldS We  believe that the
>>IS discipline with its interdisciplinary focus on  the relationships
>>between information technologies and diverse  individual,
>>organizational, and societal issues including knowledge  management
>>and decision support systems is well positioned for  wisdom computing
>>research." Contributions to wisdom research in IS  can be in terms of
>>theories applied from various disciplines  (including IS itself) to
>>build tools and techniques for individual,  organizational and
>>societal uses. For example, a colleague and I  have recently begun a
>>study to understand "dialogue" and how  technologies can facilitate
>>meaningful dialogue (beyond  conversation, discussion, and
>>decision-making) among diverse groups  of people on key questions in
>>a domain. In fact,  I know I'll  be interested to explore potentially
>>collaborating with anyone  working on a wisdom topic in IS.
>Nik  D.
>Reference: Nikunj Dalal, "Wisdom Computing: Toward a  Framework for
>Wisdom Research in Information Systems" (July 29, 2012).  AMCIS 2012
>Proceedings. Paper  14.
>Nik  Dalal, Ph.D.
>Professor of Management Science and Information  Systems
>Oklahoma State University
>Stillwater, OK  74078
><mailto:nik at okstate.edu>nik at okstate.edu
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>From: John Artz  <<mailto:jartz at gwu.edu>jartz at gwu.edu>
>Reply-To:  <<mailto:jartz at gwu.edu>jartz at gwu.edu>
>Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013  16:34:45 -0500
>To: Ilia Bider  <<mailto:ilia at ibissoft.se>ilia at ibissoft.se>
>Cc:  <<mailto:aisworld at lists.aisnet.org>aisworld at lists.aisnet.org>
>Subject:  Re: [AISWorld] A small revolution in the IS field
>Dear  Colleagues,
>I would point out that physics was around for 2,000  years,
>fromAristotle to Newton, before it began to produce really  impressive
>results. If we are willing to wait for another 2,000 years  for the
>research in Information Systems to eventually lead to  something, I am
>confident that the field willproduce some really  impressive results
>as well. However, if we do not wish to wait that  long we might ask
>what we can do to speed things up a  bit.
>We can just keep stumbling around and eventually enough  research will
>accumulate for a pattern to appear which will make sense  out of what
>we are doing. I have every confidence that this will  eventually
>happen and I have every confidence that by the time it does,  we (and
>several subsequent generations) will all be long past the point  of
>I would like to offer a few fairly simple  questions, the answers to
>which would greatly speed up progress in the  field.
>What are the constituents of the field? That is, what is  the field
>about? What are we studying?
>For that matter,  what is an information system? (The text book
>definition is almost  worthless for research purposes)
>What would we like to know  about the constituents of the field?
>How are we likely to find  out the things we would like to know?
>These are largely  philosophical questions. And instead of asking if
>philosophy is  relevant to IS, as is a current mantra, we should be
>asking if the  field is going to make any reasonable progress in any
>reasonable amount  of time if the philosophers of IS don't get busy
>and try to answer  them.
>Just a few  thought,
>On  Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Ilia  Bider
><<mailto:ilia at ibissoft.se>ilia at ibissoft.se>  wrote:
>Hi Nick,
>Thanks for posting your  reflections. It was fascinating to observer
>the unfolding  discussions.
>Realizing that one created a monster by one's own will is  the first
>step on the way of cutting off its heads.
>On  2012-12-30 20:32, Nik R Hassan wrote:
>A small revolution in the  IS field
>As we approach the end of yet another year in the  history of the IS
>field, I'd like to say how glad I was to have  attended ICIS this
>year. It may just be me, but I think I just  witnessed a small
>revolution taking place (at least in North America)  in the field. I
>heard IS scholars making unconventional remarks I have  not heard
>before. I enclose some quotes, and what went through my mind  in
>parenthesis [I am just reporting - please don't shoot the  messenger
>:-) ].
>[Varun*] "We can do very good research,  but that doesn't mean we are
>producing good knowledge S can we create  'better' knowledge?S
>exciting, innovative and addressing important  questions of our time"
>(whaS [my jaw dropping] did Varun just  say what I thought he said??
>He's admitting we're not producing good  knowledge?)
>[Varun] "are we scripting the way we do  research....requiring us to
>select a theory and apply it to our  phenomena, create a mid-level
>model and then refine it ... add  mediators and moderators to it S
>Does this script work for good  knowledge?"
>(Wow S I kinda think everyone knew that was the  game, the standard
>publishing script, and I was taught exactly that in  school, but to
>hear a scholar say it in public and analyze it S  cool!)
>[Bernard**] "I've been looking back at all the work that  I've doneS I
>don't think I've done enough ... We really should be doing  research
>to resolve significant global problems...
>(if  Bernard feels he hasn't contributed much, how much have the rest
>of us  done?)
>[Bernard] ... at NUS, we've put together an  inter-disciplinary team
>and received a big grant using social media to  reduce pests ... and
>increase food production ... Let's not be too  fixated about whether
>MISQ or ISR would publish such research ... let's  target our work at
>Nature or Science .... to earn the respect of others  outside our
>(that's easy for him to say, he's  already published tons in MISQ and
>ISR. But isn't there something wrong  with the picture? Isn't research
>that's frequently published in the top  journals of the field that's
>supposed to make their way to journals  like Science and Nature? What
>does that say about our "normal"  research?)
>[Manju**]  "After we have had the satisfaction  of publishing in MISQ
>or ISR, and at least after making tenure and  Full, it is time to
>start thinking about researching big ideas that  make a difference "
>(Publishing 2-3 papers in MISQ and ISR, and  getting full professor is
>going to take at least 10-20 years out of the  most productive years
>of anyone's life, if they're fortunate enough to  get there. Shouldn't
>those most productive years already be spent in  researching big
>ideas? Shouldn't big ideas be some part of getting a  full
>professorship in IS?)
>[Steven Alter in a follow up  email]
>Our ICIS panel "DSR S remind me again about whether it is a  new
>research paradigm or a rationale of last resort S" chaired by  Allen
>Lee, with Steven Alter, Helmut Krcmar, and Mike Chiasson S  remarks
>similar to Varun S that DSR is increasingly governed by a  script that
>makes papers easier to review but S becoming an obstacle to  genuine
>innovation S script encourages DSR researchers to do  design-related
>work in a way in which few if any designers actually  design things in
>the real world, which is especially unfortunate for a  type of
>research that is called design SCIENCE  research."
>All of these remarks are making me rethink about the  notion of
>"value" in our work (not to be confused with "usefulness"  or
>"utility"). It's close to "relevance" but since relevance has so  much
>baggage attached to it, perhaps we should be taking a closer look  at
>what valuable research really means.
>What kind of IS  research is valuable anyway?
>Nik Rushdi  Hassan
>Univ of Minnesota Duluth
>Chair SIG  Philosophy
>*Varun Grover and Kalle Lyytinen presented at the  SIG Philosophy
>Workshop at ICIS on "IS Theory-State of the Art" -  available soon on
>the SIG Philosophy homepage
>**Bernard  Tan and Manju Ahuja presented at the Senior Scholars Panel
>at ICIS 2012  chaired by Fred Niederman
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