[AISWorld] [External] Re: On top journals with low acceptance rate and value delivering to IT professional community

Jeet Gupta guptaj at uah.edu
Sat Jun 11 14:26:45 EDT 2022


Good afternoon colleagues and friends.

I have been reading the original post and all the discussion about this
topic which is a relevant topic of discussion.

In this connection, I had organized panels at some national and
international conferences to discuss the issues of "rigor and relevance"
in refereed journals including top level journals be they in IS or other
disciplines.

I think we need to pay attention to both the rigor and relevance in our
research and publication in any discipline and more so in Information
Systems (IS).

However, with due respect to everyone in the IS field, I want to state
that in my view, we have not paid much attention to the basic/fundamental
research in IS that would set the IS as a primary discipline.  At best, in
all the research in IS, it can be considered only as a secondary
discipline and even that may be questioned by several scientists and
experts.

Always comparing IS research and publications to medical profession misses
the point: medical profession is different for basic/fundamental research
and practice.  Most of the time when we are doing such comparisons we are
comparing IS only to the research in the practice of medical profession.
How about considering the medical sciences (that includes biology,
biochemistry, technology, etc)?  When we include all those in medical
fields, we find that there is lot more fundamental research in those areas
and compared to that, we seem to have only negligible basic/fundamental
research in IS.  In fact, I remember reading an article in the IS field
once that argued that we should not be talking about IS as a discipline
and perhaps it is too early to discuss the basic/fundamental research
issues in IS to define research paradigms in IS.

Thus, in my view, IS research is reactionary in nature rather being
proactive.  I take the research in Strategic Information Systems (or even
Strategic Information Management) as an example.  While we can always talk
about IS strategy and its formulation after the fact, we cannot properly
define IS strategy or the methodology needed to formulate an IS strategy
in a proactive manner.  In addition, we cannot in advance say what IS
strategies will produce certain types of research.  Further, in many
publications, the very principle of scientific publications (that the
reported results must be reproducible) is not confirmed. This I think
because of the lack of enough basic/fundamental research and publications
in IS.

I also think of the need for basic/fundamental research from another point
of view that is particularly relevant to the academicians that most of us
are.  Academic research is "forward looking" and discusses issues that may
emerge well into the future but may have no application at present.  Thus,
our academic research should open more avenues for thinking and practice
in the future that is sometime called "long-term thinking."  In the field
of Operations Management, for example, we could not have developed the
current state of the art in say Flexible Manufacturing Systems or even
Service Operations Management without enough basic/fundamental research
that is future oriented rather than being relevant today.  I know of some
research articles published some of these areas that were found useful
well after a decade of their publication.

Thus, while I appreciate the desire of the IS researchers to seek
relevance in solving immediate practical problems, I think the viability
of the IS discipline and its very acceptance as a primary discipline
heavily depends on those who do the basic/fundamental research and publish
their findings.  Thus, we should encourage our colleagues and friends to
increase research in basic/fundamental IS research and publications on one
hand and to encourage the top IS journals to increase the share of such
articles being published.


Best regards,



Jatinder (Jeet) N. D. Gupta, PhD, CFPIM
Director, Integrated Enterprise Lab
Eminent Scholar and Professor
College of Business
The University of Alabama in Huntsville
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From: AISWorld [mailto:aisworld-bounces at lists.aisnet.org] On Behalf Of
JOSE MANUEL MORA TAVAREZ
Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2022 12:58 PM
To: João Alvaro Carvalho <jac at dsi.uminho.pt>
Cc: aisworld at lists.aisnet.org
Subject: [External] Re: [AISWorld] On top journals with low acceptance
rate and value delivering to IT professional community


Dear colleague Joao,

Thanks first for your excellent classification of types of research in the
medical domain. Top eminent IS researchers from the 70s, 80s, and still
working in the 90s, addressed REAL problems sensed from the practice, and
they use the minimal required theory (theory testing) or advanced with
small logical steps (theory development) with a scientific narrative
simple and visible. The exemplary case previously reported is a seminal
example of what must be top research:

Compeau, D. R., & Higgins, C. A. (1995). Application of social cognitive
theory to training for computer skills. Information Systems Research,
6(2), 118-143.

This title reports theoretical and methodological rigor and high
relevance, and their results can be transferred to the industry. My main
concern is that IS top research nowadays is being led by new generations
of top Professors that are lost their IT technical roots (how to design an
IS, how to program on R, how to evaluate a IS architecture, and so on). In
the past IS had a strong engineering component as valuable as the
managerial one, but now it does not happen.

Most exemplary human being case: in the 1999-2000  period, I emailed 2
brief emails to Prof. Herbert Alexander Simon, he was still at CMU or at
least he still read his emails, and I received two kind academic responses
(emails were about investigating methodologies for designing integrated
DMSS). I mean, a #1 mind had the time to respond 2 emails, and now
colleagues with high rankings do not respond to academic emails. Next
year, a Mexican peer visited CMU and gave him a small 20 USD present from
me (an Aztec Calendar) and he received it kindly. Actually, my Mexican
peer asked 1 question, by visiting time limits, on what the world economy
was so bad? and he a Nobel Economy 1978 award and a 1972 ACM Turing Award,
and co-inventor of the AI simply said: he did not know why.

I had 2 Mexican colleagues that gained their PhD at CMU, and I had the
opportunity to gain a dual PhD Monterrey Tech - CMU but I changed from PhD
program in 1993 to UNAM.

A similar top idea from Prof. Russell L. Ackof, I met him in 2004 at a top
conference at Wharton School, on the problem that "real problems are not
divided as the academic departments and scientific areas are".

In summary, we, around 60 years old, understood that IS curricula and PhD
MIS programs at present are lost their core mission.
Cheers!

Manuel

PS. I believe that new PhD students should read papers from Prof. Davis,
Prof. Zmud, Prof. Alter, Prof. Hevner, Prof. Smith, Prof. Glass, Prof.
Watson, Prof. Sambamurthy, Prof. Nunamaler, and most of the Professors
from the 70s, 80s and 90s. We learned from their top research papers.




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Depto. de Sistemas de Información
Centro de Ciencias Básicas
Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes
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From: João Alvaro Carvalho <jac at dsi.uminho.pt>
Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2022 9:55 AM
To: JOSE MANUEL MORA TAVAREZ <jose.mora at edu.uaa.mx>
Cc: AISWorld at lists.aisnet.org <aisworld at lists.aisnet.org>
Subject: Re: [AISWorld] On top journals with low acceptance rate and value
delivering to IT professional community

Dear Manuel,

In the early 80’s, in Portugal, there was a close collaboration between IS
practitioners and IS academics.
I was then a student and later recent graduate from a Informatics
Engineering degree program and I remember attending the events of the
Portuguese Informatics Association where academics and practitioners share
the floor presenting communications that both could understand.

Nowadays national conferences are organised by scientific societies and
only a few practitioners attend.

Perhaps this is a trend associated with the evolution of the informatics
field.

Herbert Simon, in the book “The Sciences of the Artificial” pointed a
trend in professional schools becoming sciences schools: schools in
engineering, business, architecture, medicine, etc, focusing on the
sciences that support them and neglecting the design and practice
dimension.
Another reinforcement to the uncoupling of research and practice.

I definitely agree with you that there is a gap between research and
practice.
I think the publication problems you mention are only a part of a larger
problem.

Regards,

João


On 7 Jun 2022, at 20:05, JOSE MANUEL MORA TAVAREZ
<jose.mora at edu.uaa.mx<mailto:jose.mora at edu.uaa.mx>> wrote:

Colleagues Joao, David, and Michael,

I estimate we have similar paths - everyone in our respective national
context- gaining a BSc on Informatics in the early 80's, and about 60
years old. In my case, I arrived late to research (early 2000 year).
However, my general concern about top research and top journals in
Informatics (Management Information Systems) is their bias in the last
decades to study micro-problems using sophisticated concepts far away of
the mindset of the final IT users - CIOs, CTOs, CKMs, CISOs, managers,
developers, and so on).  The analogy with the medical field or with
systems engineering fields was done from a natural perception of studied
topics, where the title and abstracts of most papers make sense for
practitioners. For our discipline, when you review title and abstract of
papers published in top journals in the 70s, 80s and yet 90s, and compare
them with current ones, the natural relevance for practitioners is lost.
It could be supported with an experimental research. Just one example from
a top#1 journal:

Compeau, D. R., & Higgins, C. A. (1995). Application of social cognitive
theory to training for computer skills. Information Systems Research,
6(2), 118-143.

This title attracts to practitioners without the need to have a PhD in
MIS, because it includes natural IT agents (IT people demanding computer
training) and a natural problem (how to improve computer skills), and a
top theory ! (social cognitive theory). This paper has over 2,000
citations.

The key idea here is that in the current top research, the IT artifact and
IT agents involved are not the important things to be studied in the
research but else other complementary issues.

Well, cheers colleagues!
Manuel




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Prof. Dr. José Manuel Mora Tavarez
Depto. de Sistemas de Información
Centro de Ciencias Básicas
Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes
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From: Prof. David G. Schwartz
<David.Schwartz at biu.ac.il<mailto:David.Schwartz at biu.ac.il>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 11:44 AM
To: João Alvaro Carvalho <jac at dsi.uminho.pt<mailto:jac at dsi.uminho.pt>>
Cc: JOSE MANUEL MORA TAVAREZ
<jose.mora at edu.uaa.mx<mailto:jose.mora at edu.uaa.mx>>; Michael Myers
<m.myers at auckland.ac.nz<mailto:m.myers at auckland.ac.nz>>;
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Subject: Re: [AISWorld] On top journals with low acceptance rate and value
delivering to IT professional community

Dear João and all,

I have for years been advocating for the adoption of certain (positive)
aspects of the medical discipline for our own research and education
practices.
See: Schwartz, D. G. (2014). Research commentary—the disciplines of
information: Lessons from the history of the discipline of medicine.
Information Systems Research, 25(2), 205-221.
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In addition to the excellent points that you raise regarding three types
of research, and the important synergies between
hospital/clinic/patient/MD in the organizational context, the medical
field also benefits from a clear definition of core knowledge (that which
all MDs are required to study and know), and wide ranging specializations
(which allow for growth of the field from the common core). This did not
occur overnight and is the result of a 100+ year process of unification
and specialization which had tremendous disciplinary benefits.

Medical specialization was the result of a number of motivators and
environmental factors. It was the pragmatic outgrowth of the evolution of
the field and the impacts of environment and technology. One might even be
tempted to say that it was a sociotechnical result. But it was also the
result of a conceptual leap taken by John Morgan, founder of university
medical education in the United States, in his discourse of 1765 (Gelfand
1976). It would take almost 100 years for the ideas crystallized by Morgan
to significantly alter the medical landscape. We don’t have that long.
Despite some clear differences between the discipline of medicine and the
Disciplines of Information (DI) at scientific, academic, and practical
levels, there remains a strong and clear parallel between the factors that
led to today’s conceptualization of the medical field. Following Freidson
(1988) the identification and analysis of these factors makes it clear
that we have much to learn from the history of medicine. Much work remains
to be done in characterizing what will become the core and specialties of
DI; what institutional ecology will result; and how specialization would
be determined, accredited, and maintained.

Perhaps the time has come for a working committee to systematically try
and determine what aspects of the medical disciplinary structure we would
be wise to adopt.

Refs:
Freidson E (1988) Profession of Medicine: A Study of the Sociology of
Applied Knowledge (University of Chicago Press, Chicago).
Gelfand T (1976) The origins of a modern concept of medical
specialization: John Morgan’s Discourse of 1765. Bull. Hist. Medicine
50(4):511–535.


--David
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David G. Schwartz
Professor of Information Systems
Graduate School of Business
Bar-Ilan University, Israel


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On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 7:07 PM João Alvaro Carvalho
<jac at dsi.uminho.pt<mailto:jac at dsi.uminho.pt>> wrote:
Hi José and Michael,

In the first message, José compares IS research with medical research.

It called my attention because I have been looking into medical research,
trying to establish the parallel with IS.

In medical research there is a well established distinction among 3 types
of research: basic/blue skies research; translational research; and
clinical research: the first is driven by curiosity; the second aims at
creating new “treatments"; the third aims at establishing the
effectiveness of “treatments”.
Clinical research typically involves practitioners. They get involved in
clinical research with their own patients or involving the patients of the
hospital they work in. Thus, practitioners are also producers of research
reports. Not mere consumers.
I would say that medical practitioners (ate least some) look into reports
of translational research when looking for novel treatments for some
disease they are interested in, and they look into reports of clinical
research looking for evidence about the effectiveness of the
existing/alternative treatments for a disease.
This is particularly true when practitioners follow evidence-based
medicine practices.

In the case of IS we miss several of the components I mentioned above.
A lot of (most) IS research is basic/blue skies research.
DSR takes us close to translational research. However, a few differences
can be mentioned.

We seldom have clinical research.
We lack a systematic catalogue of diseases.
We lack a systematic catalogue of treatments, with all the elements we
found in the leaflet of any medicament we get from a pharmacy.
Furthermore, evidence-based practice is far from being established.
I recognise that medicine is much better organised. OK, it is much mature.
After all it is one of the oldest professions in the world… ;-)

But I believe that we can learn a lot from it.
Not just in the research facet. I also mean the way research is entangled
with practice. And the way practitioners get involved in teaching.
And the way students get involved into practice, since early in their
programs, and at the final stage of their training.
I understand that the differences between IS and medicine, prevent us from
“importing” all the package of medicine.
But several things could be done. As soon as possible.

Regards,

João







> On 7 Jun 2022, at 01:45, JOSE MANUEL MORA TAVAREZ
<jose.mora at edu.uaa.mx<mailto:jose.mora at edu.uaa.mx>> wrote:
>
> Prof. Ioannadis is a top cited researcher (over 400,000 citations). This
next paper has over 11,000 citations:
>
> Ioannidis JP. Why most published research findings are false. PLoS
> Med. 2005; 2(8):e124. PMID: 16060722
>
> There are interesting replies on this top paper clarifying the previous
strong assertion at:
>
> Stroebe, W. (2016). Are most published social psychological findings
false?. Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, 66, 134-144.
> "Ioannidis´ claim is valid only for one-shot studies without replication
and with a low a priori probability that the tested hypothesis is true."
>
>
> Lydersen, S., & Langaas, M. (2021). What proportion of published
research findings are false?. Tidsskrift for Den norske legeforening.
> "Ioannidis produced a model which was based on a number of assumptions
in various study designs. The assumptions may appear realistic, but it is
a weakness that they to not build on data."
>
>
> Diekmann, A. (2011). Are most published research findings false?.
Jahrbücher für Nationalökonomie und Statistik, 231(5-6), 628-635.
> "This short note sketches the argument and explores under what
conditions the assertion holds. The “positive predictive value” (PPV) is
lower than 1/2 if the a priori probability of the truth of a hypothesis is
low. However, computation of the PPV includes only significant results. If
both significant and non-significant results are taken into account the
“total error ratio” (TER) will not exceed 1/2 provided no extremely large
publication bias is present. "
>
> but most interesting recommendation from Ioannadis (2016) on what is
useful research:
>
> "Many of the features that make clinical research useful can be
identified, including those relating to problem base, context placement,
information gain, pragmatism, patient centeredness, value for money,
feasibility, and transparency" (Ioannadis, 2016; p.1).
>
> From a practitioner perspective, many medical practitioners consult
medical research journals to search for insights and clues and it is
impossible at present in IS top research.
>
>
>
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> Prof. Dr. José Manuel Mora Tavarez
> Depto. de Sistemas de Información
> Centro de Ciencias Básicas
> Universidad Autónoma de Aguascalientes Ave. Universidad 940
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>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Myers
> <m.myers at auckland.ac.nz<mailto:m.myers at auckland.ac.nz>>
> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 4:57 PM
> To: AISWorld at lists.aisnet.org<mailto:AISWorld at lists.aisnet.org>
> <aisworld at lists.aisnet.org<mailto:aisworld at lists.aisnet.org>>
> Cc: JOSE MANUEL MORA TAVAREZ
> <jose.mora at edu.uaa.mx<mailto:jose.mora at edu.uaa.mx>>
> Subject: RE: On top journals with low acceptance rate and value
> delivering to IT profes sional community
>
>
> Most medical research is not very useful either. For example, some
estimates suggest that only about 10% of drug trials are successful. For
more info, see:
>
>
>
> Citation: Ioannidis JPA (2016) Why Most Clinical Research Is Not
> Useful. PLoS Med 13(6):
> e1002049.https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pmed.1002049<https://nam04.sa
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>
>
>
> But until you actually conduct some research, how can you find out?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: AISWorld
> <aisworld-bounces at lists.aisnet.org<mailto:aisworld-bounces at lists.aisne
> t.org>> On Behalf Of JOSE MANUEL MORA TAVAREZ
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2022 9:28 AM
> To: AISWorld at lists.aisnet.org<mailto:AISWorld at lists.aisnet.org>
> Subject: [AISWorld] On top journals with low acceptance rate and value
> delivering to IT professional community
>
>
>
> It is not expected that practitioners from any discipline were usual
readers of scientific journals, but it should be ethically expected that
scientific journals in any discipline produce knowledge that can be used -
after adaptations or simplifications - in real interventions by
practitioners, like medical research. Top MIS journals in the 70s and 80s
achieved this mission but at present days, is it true? Multiple
micro-problems are studied and selectively published (about 5% of
acceptance) in top journals but I estimate the same percentage of 5% will
be useful for practitioners in the next 5 years. Then, are we delivering
value for the real population of interest in our discipline?
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> Manuel Mora, EngD.
> Full-time Professor and Researcher Level C ACM Senior Member / SNI
> Member Department of Information Systems Autonomous University of
> Aguascalientes Ave. Universidad 940 Aguascalientes, AGS Mexico, 20131


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