[AISWorld] [EXT] Re: [External] Hiring Professor (Female Only) in Information Systems and Technology Management, UNSW Sydney

[Murray Jennex]

just my two cents worth here. I'm not offended that UNSW wants to hire a
female, I get it. I am offended by the way they are doing it by making such
a statement in the subject line. Someone mentioned Biden and SCOTUS, Biden
made his statement solely to score political points and in the process has
brought into question the legitimacy of the appointee. I think UNSW is
doing the same by making such a blatant statement in the subject line. Put
it in the description of the position but say preference will be given to
females for your reasons, the rest of us will judge then but don't slap us
in the face with the subject line. I know this is a little point, but
hiring a female should not be a political issue, most of us don't care
about gender but do care about the person's qualification.

One last comment, what is really humorous about this is that here in the US
we no longer have a definition of female (basically its the absence of
being male) so I'm not sure who UNSW is really looking to hire

Bottom line, hire who you want but don't make it a in your face political
statement.....murray jennex.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 10:28 AM Michael Cuellar <
mcuellar at georgiasouthern.edu> wrote:

> As someone who has been the victim of age-related discrimination both
> implicit and explicit in academic hiring,  whose parents were subject to
> race related discrimination in housing and as someone who also benefitted
> from racial minority preferences, I have something to say about this
> subject.
>
> I understand UNSW’s desire to have more women in the faculty. Part of the
> problems with recruiting women (and minority groups) into the IS field is
> the fact that faculties don’t have role models for those students among the
> faculty. It would be better for those students to have people they can look
> up to on the faculty. However, is the right way to do it by explicitly
> discriminating against male, trans and non-binary people?
>
> Taking an act consequentialist ethical stance, Wombat calls this explicit
> discrimination a “moral good”, because it “alleviates the problem” of
> discrimination against women. However we need to complete the analysis of
> the consequences. It does make the gender ratio better in the UNSW faculty
> and can provide roles models for women in their programs. But at what cost?
> It unjustly injures men, trans and non-binary people who have done nothing
> against UNSW to merit such exclusion. It also teaches people that we can
> injure people in pursuit of worthy goals: the end justifies the means. It
> also means that potentially an otherwise less qualified candidate is hired
> solely because more qualified candidates are excluded because of an gender
> requirement.
>
> The counter argument Wombat puts forth is that it strikes a blow against
> “male privilege” which stacks the deck in favor a male candidates. I
> understand something of stacked decks. The deck is stacked against older
> candidates in the USA. All things being equal, faculties will tend to hire
> younger candidates (in my experience). In Europe, it is explicit, if you
> are over 45 in certain countries you flat won’t be considered. I have fully
> felt the sting of that and don’t wish it on anyone else. I agree with
> Shailendra, " I am for absolutely no discrimination based on gender, age,
> religion, and so on”.
>
> While I don’t know them, I believe that the UNSW faculty could make an
> unbiased decision without privileging males in the hiring process. Perhaps
> Wombat is saying because of male privilege men turn out to be more
> qualified than women and on a straight qualification basis women would tend
> not to be selected or that there are insufficient numbers of women who
> otherwise would wish to apply given competition with men. I would hope that
> in 2022, women would  be fully competitive against men on a straight up
> basis making such preferences unnecessary.
>
> That being said, UNSW gets to do things the way that they want. It is,
> after all, it is their school. I wish they would find a better, more
> equitable, way to reach their goals.
> ----------------------------------------------
> Michael Cuellar, PhD, PMP
> Associate Professor,
> Enterprise Systems and Analytics
> Georgia Southern University
>
> Parker College of Business
> Enterprise Systems and Analytics Department
> PO Box 7998
> Statesboro, GA  30460-7998
> email: mcuellar at georgiasouthern.edu
> phone: (404)-405-4510
>
> Editor-In-Chief Journal of the Southern AIS
> Senior Editor, JISE
>
> > On Jun 10, 2022, at 11:57 AM, wombat <c.conway at ieseg.fr> wrote:
> >
> > On 6/10/22 17:36, Shailendra Palvia wrote:
> >> Why ugly head?
> > Only a person who was ignorant of, or falsely denying the reality of,
> the built-in discrimination against women in our societies would "just
> wonder" about the legality.
> >
> > The rest of us don't care, because someone is doing something active to
> alleviate the problem, and thus the act is morally good, whether it is
> "legal" or not. And if you're annoyed because you feel it "isn't fair",
> then that's male privilege. You are unware of, or unwilling to admit to,
> the myriad ways that the deck is already stacked in your favor.
> >
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