[AISWorld] Plagiarism /"Self-Plagiarism" and copyright

MurphJen at aol.com MurphJen at aol.com
Sun Dec 18 05:07:15 EST 2011


I for one do not believe it is possible to self plagiarize, as the author  
and the previous author, logically how can you do this?  Unless the real  
issue is recognizing the copyright.  This is a different issue and I'd like  
to see us agree that we can't plagiarize ourselves (the idea of this actually 
 makes my head hurt) by copying or reusing our previous work, but we can 
fail to  recognize a copyright.
 
This leads to an issue I believe we discussed a year or two ago,  
self-citation.  As I remember from that discussion we agreed that excessive  self 
citation is not good either.
 
I don't see how we can this both ways, limited self citation with no self  
plagiarism.  As an editor in chief I really don't have a problem with  
authors reusing conference papers in a journal submission, in fact I encourage  
it.  I also don't have a problem with self citation when it is appropriate  
as it shows a body of work that builds on itself.  
 
I guess my bottom line comment is that we seem to spend a lot of time and  
energy discussing things of relatively little value (like self citation and 
self  plagiarism) when we could be spending this time and energy writing 
good journal  articles.  Of course, I do understand that we are discussing this 
because  there is a proposal to punish self plagiarism.  I have two 
proposals:
 
1.  drop any proposed punishments for self plagiarism
2.  drop copyrighting conference papers
 
I'm probably over simplifying the issue an apologize for that, but it  
really does seem weird to have a discussion on self plagiarism.
 
Thanks...murray jennex
 
 
In a message dated 12/11/2011 10:49:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
krassie.petrova at aut.ac.nz writes:

Dear Colleagues, in some previous posts, 'copyright' was  mentioned  along 
with plagiarism/ 'self-plagiarism'.  Are these not  two different issues?
 
 In my view misrepresenting / appropriating others' work -  whether 
copyright protected or not, is not acceptable as it is unethical  with respect  to 
academic ethical standards.  I would think  that any academic  body dealing 
with plagiarism issues would focus on the  ethical side and leave copyright 
violation and legal  proceedings  to the affected party (the copyright 
holder).  
 
Second, when it comes to 'self-plagiarism': what is the proposed  
punishment for (when  repeating a portion of  previously published one's own material 
, in a copyright protected  journal) - for using too big a portion (and 
thus reducing the contribution of  the new paper), or for violating the 
copyright ? In my view the focus should  be on the first ; if the 'inclusion'  adds 
to the value of the new paper,  then the editor and the author need to find 
ways to deal with the  copyright issue.   The idea  of developing  
academically accepted practices in that respect is very timely and would be  useful 
both to authors and editors.   
 
Krassie Petrova
Senior Research Lecturer, Information Systems and Technology
Auckland University of Technology, New Zealand
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    From:  Göran Goldkuhl<goran.goldkuhl at liu.se>  To: 
"aisworld at lists.aisnet.org"  <aisworld at lists.aisnet.org>  Date:  12/12/11 4:54 AM  Subject:  Re: 
[AISWorld] Plagiarism and  "Self-Plagiarism"I fully agree to this: We  
should not use the term ”self-plagiarism”. It is a contradiction in  terms. I 
quote from Online Etymology Online: 

“Plagiarism: 1620s,  from L. plagiarius "kidnapper, seducer, plunderer," 
used in the sense of  "literary thief" by Martial, from plagium "kidnapping," 
from plaga  "snare, net,"

Self-plagiarism would mean stealing from yourself.  

Submitting the same paper to several targets is of course  deceitful 
behaviour. However, the problem of re-using your own earlier  material should be 
given more thoughtful considerations. We honour  cumulative research building 
on earlier works, which of course should  comprise your own work. Do we not 
think it is desirable to develop  earlier ideas and as a consequence to 
include in this development own  intellectual material that already have been 
exposed? 

To threat  scholars with possible allegations of self-plagiarism could have 
 consequences that scholars start with new things all over the time and  
not work with continual development and improvement of intellectual  contents. 

Göran Goldkuhl
Professor information systems  development
Linköping  University
Sweden

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Ämne: [AISWorld] Plagiarism  and "Self-Plagiarism"

I would like to draw the attention on a  side aspect connected to Claudia's
posting and much more relevant  with Ned's points in mind: The wording issue
with  "self-plagiarism".

The term "plagiarism" is a very sharp sword in  public discussions (we just
had a couple of cases in Germany,  including a minister who had to resign).
With calling two entirely  different issues by similar names, we mix up
relevance. It's just  like insulting your spouse having stolen the dinner
items in the  supermarket versus just cooking the same thing as yesterday.

The  first one is unethical, the second one just needs clear rules  (as
Claudia pointed out). Thus, I would urge that we think about a  different
term for the second, e.g., something like  "double-selling".

Key


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